Curse

shoyon456 · Mar 31, 2009, 04:59 AM // 04:59

Chances are, the way the system is setup it would take a massive overhaul to get rid of syncing.

Doubt they'll ever do anything about it, if anything they'll take a lesson from it and not allow it to happen in GW2 (if its applicable to the PvP system in it).

RedNova88 · Mar 31, 2009, 07:15 AM // 07:15

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Originally Posted by Martin Firestorm

Solution: close RA. No more syncing, no more bitching.

I think its time that GW players recognize that this is a dead game, not just to most players, but to anet too. The occasional updated skill or question answered on a talk page cannot change that. Anet has moved on and only refuses to admit it for fear of losing its built in player base for GW2. That's no reason not to play if you want to play, just don't expect crap out of anet.

First of all I agree with your first point. Just get rid of it, it used to be fun to screw around with builds to test them out, but now it's just stupid.

Second... A dead game is a game that's dead. Guild Wars is very much alive despite what all the people here generally say. I can go into any outpost and still find enough people to form an adequate group with, that seems pretty alive to me. Mind you Guild Wars "aint what she used to be" but is still a long ways away from dead.

I feel that syncing is wrong, it ruins the point of RA which is obviously the random aspect. Hey though! It's not against the rules so exploit it to your heart's content, if they aren't willing to change it then take advantage of it yourself. I hate to be "that guy" but it's the truth. If it's not going to get fixed, it's now part of the game. Enjoy!

Martin Firestorm · Mar 31, 2009, 04:08 PM // 16:08

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Originally Posted by RedNova88

Second... A dead game is a game that's dead. Guild Wars is very much alive despite what all the people here generally say. I can go into any outpost and still find enough people to form an adequate group with, that seems pretty alive to me. Mind you Guild Wars "aint what she used to be" but is still a long ways away from dead.

It is a very old yet playable game, and some do play it. My point is from anet's perspective, it is dead. They're giving it the bare minimum support to make it seem as if they still care about it, but its quite obvious they are all about GW2 now. And that's not criticism, because I'd be working on my future revenue maker to the exclusion of my dead dog too if I was anet. I just think its time for some of the folks around here who are always dreaming about the next update, advocating the final solution to game balance, and trying to divine the deeper purpose of the HOM, to sit down and have a cup of coffee with Mr. Reality.

Raccoon · Mar 31, 2009, 04:36 PM // 16:36

I condone syncing in RA. It helps me earn quick glad points without the frustration of having to scream RESMERESMERESMERESMERESMERESME to people who don't even know where they are.

Guild wars is pretty much dead and the players left over are either faithful to the game and good, or random younger siblings who got onto peoples accounts to stuff around.

If I see one more god damn fire storm warrior in my team I may just start hacking accounts and making them some proper builds myself.

Skyy High · Mar 31, 2009, 07:31 PM // 19:31

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Originally Posted by Martin Firestorm

It is a very old yet playable game, and some do play it. My point is from anet's perspective, it is dead. They're giving it the bare minimum support to make it seem as if they still care about it, but its quite obvious they are all about GW2 now. And that's not criticism, because I'd be working on my future revenue maker to the exclusion of my dead dog too if I was anet. I just think its time for some of the folks around here who are always dreaming about the next update, advocating the final solution to game balance, and trying to divine the deeper purpose of the HOM, to sit down and have a cup of coffee with Mr. Reality.

MOX, and whatever is in this April update, are not "the bare minimum of support".

Martin Firestorm · Mar 31, 2009, 07:42 PM // 19:42

lol

As long as you're happy.

desrtrat · Mar 31, 2009, 07:44 PM // 19:44

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Originally Posted by SmithyBen

i don't understand you people, this games fine as it is. Will you stop whining about every stupid little thing. Ofcourse they do stuff for the community, why else would Anet keep them under employment otherwise. CR doesn't just mean pop into the game now and then and say hello ya'know ....btw threads with RANT in the title should get a lock inless theres something worht discussing

I agree!! I can't believe how many whiners are in this forum. You all complain about EVERYTHING. If you're all such experts at how games "Should" be designed, there's nothing stopping you from submitting your resume to Anet so that you can show them "How it's done". If the game annoys you that much, just don't play it. It's that simple. If the "game is dead" as I keep hearing from certain people in here, then why come participate in this forum?

I for one think it's a great game and I think Anet does a good job trying to address issues. You can't please everybody! You could'nt pay me enough to have Regina or some other Anet staff's job because of some of you people. And this is JUST 1 FANSITE! What about the European and Asian sites? If they bitch half as much as this place does then Anet needs to be commended for not just saying "screw you ingrates" and not fixing ANYTHING. I play for fun not as some way to make myself feel all powerfull by pwning n00bs. It's not the game that needs to be changed, it's your entitlement attitudes. IT'S A FREAKING GAME!! Please try to keep it in perspective.

Rocky Raccoon · Mar 31, 2009, 08:19 PM // 20:19

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Originally Posted by desrtrat

I agree!! I can't believe how many whiners are in this forum. You all complain about EVERYTHING. If you're all such experts at how games "Should" be designed, there's nothing stopping you from submitting your resume to Anet so that you can show them "How it's done". If the game annoys you that much, just don't play it. It's that simple. If the "game is dead" as I keep hearing from certain people in here, then why come participate in this forum?

I for one think it's a great game and I think Anet does a good job trying to address issues. You can't please everybody! You could'nt pay me enough to have Regina or some other Anet staff's job because of some of you people. And this is JUST 1 FANSITE! What about the European and Asian sites? If they bitch half as much as this place does then Anet needs to be commended for not just saying "screw you ingrates" and not fixing ANYTHING. I play for fun not as some way to make myself feel all powerfull by pwning n00bs. It's not the game that needs to be changed, it's your entitlement attitudes. IT'S A FREAKING GAME!! Please try to keep it in perspective.

I am putting on my helmet and taking cover.

dusanyu · Apr 01, 2009, 12:47 AM // 00:47

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Originally Posted by desrtrat

I agree!! I can't believe how many whiners are in this forum. You all complain about EVERYTHING. If you're all such experts at how games "Should" be designed, there's nothing stopping you from submitting your resume to Anet so that you can show them "How it's done". If the game annoys you that much, just don't play it. It's that simple. If the "game is dead" as I keep hearing from certain people in here, then why come participate in this forum?

I for one think it's a great game and I think Anet does a good job trying to address issues. You can't please everybody! You could'nt pay me enough to have Regina or some other Anet staff's job because of some of you people. And this is JUST 1 FANSITE! What about the European and Asian sites? If they bitch half as much as this place does then Anet needs to be commended for not just saying "screw you ingrates" and not fixing ANYTHING. I play for fun not as some way to make myself feel all powerfull by pwning n00bs. It's not the game that needs to be changed, it's your entitlement attitudes. IT'S A FREAKING GAME!! Please try to keep it in perspective.

HA best post ever!

Mod up +5

DreamWind · Apr 01, 2009, 02:34 AM // 02:34

I hate these kinds of posts so its time to pick it apart.

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I agree!! I can't believe how many whiners are in this forum. You all complain about EVERYTHING.

And you are complaining about the complainers.

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If you're all such experts at how games "Should" be designed, there's nothing stopping you from submitting your resume to Anet so that you can show them "How it's done".

I don't want to work for Anet. I am speaking about problems of the game from a player perspective (which they need).

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If the game annoys you that much, just don't play it. It's that simple.

I don't anymore and neither does anybody else I know for the same reasons.

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Originally Posted by desrtrat

If the "game is dead" as I keep hearing from certain people in here, then why come participate in this forum?

For fun? There are a ton of people that post here and don't play the game anymore. They have a good time making fun of the people who say the game isn't dead.

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I for one think it's a great game and I think Anet does a good job trying to address issues.

You clearly haven't been playing this game very long. If you have you clearly ignore the facts.

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What about the European and Asian sites? If they bitch half as much as this place does then Anet needs to be commended for not just saying "screw you ingrates" and not fixing ANYTHING.

They are probably thinking that, but they can't say it or nobody would buy GW2. Same reason they aren't saying GW1 is all but dead in their eyes.

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Originally Posted by desrtrat

It's not the game that needs to be changed, it's your entitlement attitudes. IT'S A FREAKING GAME!! Please try to keep it in perspective.

And this is a forum where people come to talk about problems with the game. Please try to keep it in perspective.

desrtrat · Apr 01, 2009, 07:03 AM // 07:03

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Originally Posted by DreamWind

I hate these kinds of posts so its time to pick it apart.

Ditto...

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And you are complaining about the complainers.

Ironic isn't it? haha I'll give you that one..(none of this is personal BTW..but if I struck a nerve with you then you MAY be the type I'm talking about)

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I don't want to work for Anet. I am speaking about problems of the game from a player perspective (which they need).

Of course you don't want to work for Anet! Who would with people like what I've seen here bitching so much all the time? I understand they need feedback, and they have received plenty of constructive criticism that I think they make an honest effort to address. When you see people bitching constantly and doing nothing but spouting off about how Anet sucks and doesn't give a shit because they won't fix the problem that THEY think is the most important, it gets kind of rediculous. But I'll admit it IS entertaining that people get so riled up about it. (and before you say I'm taking it that seriously, I'm playing devil's advocate right now..it's giving me a giggle fit as I write this.)

It's a vocal minority that thinks everything is hosed. I would imagine that Anet (just like every other software development house) fixes the most pressing issues first, and things that ACTUALLY break the game, not things that are just Annoying..ALL software development houses do that. I'm sure that with the money WoW gets every month they can afford a betallion of programmers to fix every little thing, but I doubt Anet has that luxury..but they're also not charging me every month to play a game I already paid for...

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I don't anymore and neither does anybody else I know for the same reasons.

So if you don't play the game (or anyone else you know) anymore, how would YOU know what's broken? Oh ya..that's right..from this forum..where apparently only negative comments about the game are allowed.

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Originally Posted by DreamWind

For fun? There are a ton of people that post here and don't play the game anymore. They have a good time making fun of the people who say the game isn't dead.

And those of us that DO play the game have a good time making fun of the whiners and crybabies who say it IS dead. Again.. if this ton of people that post here don't play the game anymore, how would they know it's dead? I haven't found that to be the case at all.

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You clearly haven't been playing this game very long. If you have you clearly ignore the facts.

You don't play the game AT ALL.. so how would you know what the FACTS are? Oh I know.. all the people you know.. who also don't play the game, told you in this forum right?

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They are probably thinking that, but they can't say it or nobody would buy GW2.

You're probably right that they're thinking it.. but I'm sure plenty will buy GW2 regardless...

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Same reason they aren't saying GW1 is all but dead in their eyes.

Committing fewer resources to a previous version is a lot different from saying a game is dead (i.E. Not supported anymore)

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And this is a forum where people come to talk about problems with the game. Please try to keep it in perspective.

I thought it was a forum that people came to DISCUSS the game and was about more than just bitching about it and proclaiming how dead it is. I came here to maybe get some pointers and learn how to play the game better. Maybe I was wrong to think I'd get that here..wouldn't be the first time and damn sure won't be the last.

Anyway...i'm done now... so you can have the last word. Again, nothing was personal and please accept my appologies if my tone was a bit harsh at times. Take it easy DreamWind...flame away.

DreamWind · Apr 01, 2009, 01:37 PM // 13:37

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Originally Posted by desrtrat

Of course you don't want to work for Anet! Who would with people like what I've seen here bitching so much all the time? I understand they need feedback, and they have received plenty of constructive criticism that I think they make an honest effort to address.

You do know that elite forums have a ratio of Anet praise posts to Anet criticism posts of about 10:1. What if I went into every praise post and complained that there are too many carebears? Annoying wouldn't it? The criticism posts are what make this forum worthwhile...if it was all praise posts it would be worthless.

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Originally Posted by desrtrat

I would imagine that Anet (just like every other software development house) fixes the most pressing issues first, and things that ACTUALLY break the game, not things that are just Annoying.

You would be only half right. Just ask oldschool PvP players if Anet fixed the most pressing issues first and you'll get a resounding NO.

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Originally Posted by desrtrat

So if you don't play the game (or anyone else you know) anymore, how would YOU know what's broken? Oh ya..that's right..from this forum..where apparently only negative comments about the game are allowed.

I don't play it seriously. I still keep up with the game enough to know the changes made to it, and none of them have given me the urge to come back.

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And those of us that DO play the game have a good time making fun of the whiners and crybabies who say it IS dead. Again.. if this ton of people that post here don't play the game anymore, how would they know it's dead? I haven't found that to be the case at all.

We aren't talking about whether or not the game is dead to you...we are talking about the game being dead as a multiplayer game, dead compared to its former self, and dead in terms of community population. You can have fun playing a dying game though and that is fine with me.

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You don't play the game AT ALL.. so how would you know what the FACTS are? Oh I know.. all the people you know.. who also don't play the game, told you in this forum right?

Because I played it nonstop for 3 years. If you didn't then you wouldn't know what did or didn't happen.

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Committing fewer resources to a previous version is a lot different from saying a game is dead (i.E. Not supported anymore)

There isn't enough resources to fix the "pressing issues" anymore. The only things that will be addressed are the minor ones...hence the reason people wanting changes such as the ones in this thread are wasting their time.

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I thought it was a forum that people came to DISCUSS the game and was about more than just bitching about it and proclaiming how dead it is.

Again...10:1. Please see above.

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Anyway...i'm done now... so you can have the last word. Again, nothing was personal and please accept my appologies if my tone was a bit harsh at times. Take it easy DreamWind...flame away.

I don't flame. I simply come in here to expose the truth.

Rocky Raccoon · Apr 01, 2009, 05:37 PM // 17:37

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Originally Posted by DreamWind

For fun? There are a ton of people that post here and don't play the game anymore. They have a good time making fun of the people who say the game isn't dead.

So you are just a troll plain and simple. The game may be dead to you, but to many it isn't. If you don't play anymore, anything you post should be taken from that perspective. Your great walls of text aren't even worth papering a wall with if you really just post to make fun of people.

DreamWind · Apr 01, 2009, 06:22 PM // 18:22

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So you are just a troll plain and simple.

Please explain to me how I'm a troll. I simply responded to another post and remained on topic...Anet has no intention of touching the topic of this thread.

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The game may be dead to you, but to many it isn't.

It doesn't have to be dead to any one individual to be a dead game.

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If you don't play anymore, anything you post should be taken from that perspective. Your great walls of text aren't even worth papering a wall with if you really just post to make fun of people.

That isn't my reason for posting...hell I posted mostly the same stuff when I still played. I simply respond to the people who make ridiculous posts.

Rocky Raccoon · Apr 01, 2009, 06:38 PM // 18:38

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Originally Posted by DreamWind

That isn't my reason for posting...hell I posted mostly the same stuff when I still played. I simply respond to the people who make ridiculous posts.

Ridiculous is all relative. Someone may look at your posts and say they are ridiculous, that doesn't make them so, it's just opinion.

"For fun? There are a ton of people that post here and don't play the game anymore. They have a good time making fun of the people who say the game isn't dead."

Do you include yourself with these people? One could construe that from the wording that you do. To me if you come to the forum to make fun of people you are a troll.

"I don't flame. I simply come in here to expose the truth."

This one made me LOL.

Bob Slydell · Apr 01, 2009, 06:38 PM // 18:38

Here's a revolutionary, amazing concept that not a lot of people seem to know about. I'm not quite sure if i should share this concept, it might.. be too amazing.

Alright, I'll share it.

Stop crying and play the game.

byteme! · Apr 01, 2009, 07:10 PM // 19:10

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Originally Posted by Chrisworld

Here's a revolutionary, amazing concept that not a lot of people seem to know about. I'm not quite sure if i should share this concept, it might.. be too amazing.

Alright, I'll share it.

Stop crying and play the game.

You know damn well that ain't gonna happen. People complain about the smallest things and blow them out of proportion. It doesn't take much either. All it takes is for someone to start a QQ topic.

Eragon Zarroc · Apr 01, 2009, 07:38 PM // 19:38

wtb QQ thread closer please >_<

icedwhitemocha · Apr 01, 2009, 07:44 PM // 19:44

Why the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO is this thread still open?

Bob Slydell · Apr 01, 2009, 08:52 PM // 20:52

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Originally Posted by byteme!

You know damn well that ain't gonna happen. People complain about the smallest things and blow them out of proportion. It doesn't take much either. All it takes is for someone to start a QQ topic.

Oh I know it won't happen, people are too much of cry babies and want their way with everything.

Crybabies are why the following things happened in GW:

1. Dishonor System
2. /Report Feature (scamming was added to the report feature too.. i thought anet said once the person at fault when a scam occured the person who got scammed?)
3. PvP/PvE skill versions + constant balances
4. Good elites got messed up
5. Theres more i just can't think because I'm drawing blanks.. (havent played in a while)